Practice Video - Basket of Turf

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Rudy Mueller » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:56 am

Great comments from all. Try to be comfortable.

I am still using a version of the portable table described elsewhere on this site. The current open top is of 3/4 inch (19 mm) thick cedar, and its upper surface is 24 inches (60 cm) from the floor. I also use a standard straight-back wooden kitchen chair, whose front edge is 17.5 inches (45 cm) from the floor, usually playing with the right hand bridge centered in front of my chest, and the left hand edge of the zither off-set back about 4 inches in from the table edge. This leaves my forearms at a slight downward angle, and fingers pointing slightly downward. This may not be comfortable for others. The instrument is a few inches above my lap; the distance from the top of the chair to the top of the table is a mere ~6-7 inches (~15 cm).

Although a lot depend on personal body structure (most of my body height is above the waist, 6'1" tall ,with 30 inch inseam), Ludwig K (considerably shorter) has used this table several times on Zither Sundays, with no complaints.

Rudi

p.s. for humidity, I hang two damp wash cloths over the back edge of the table, adding water when dry. Tuning has been exceptionally stable. The instrument and table become one unit, a micro-environment. I am fortunate to have a wood shop; if the dampness damages this table, I'll just re-finish it or build another.

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Rudy Mueller » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:00 am

I am electronically challenged. Might I-phones be a possibility?

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by NutmegCT » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:01 am

Rudi - thanks for the suggestions!

Would it be possible to post photos to show what you're describing?

Thanks.
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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by NutmegCT » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:04 am

Rudi - iphones are fun, but they're only one-to-one. You'd need to post the photos here, or videos on YouTube, so we can share them.

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Andy » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:45 am

Hey Tom,

I think in this case, playing with your finger tips means the fleshy bit at the end of your finger nail. Steffen Hempel is a good example of someone who plays on his finger tips, and he has a lot of videos with some really great shots of his fingers. This video of his, Gauklertanz, is a good example.

https://youtu.be/djW8pR08Z3k

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by NutmegCT » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:15 am

Andy - good example!

To me, he's not sounding the string with finger *tips* - he's using the right side of the finger's tip, the right corner of the fingernail. In other words, he's got his fingers angled at the string, using the right side of the tip, instead of pointing straight down, using the finger tip itself.

All my life I'd thought the finger tip was the actual end of the finger, under the front edge of the nail.

That Gauklertanz is a *great* bit of fun! Anyway, thanks for the video. Something I note with professionals (as Steffen), is that they seem to use a lot more power in sounding the strings, than beginners use.

Now let's see some photos and videos from experienced forum members illustrating hand and finger stroke details!

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Evelyn » Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:25 pm

NutmegCT wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:15 am
Now let's see some photos and videos from experienced forum members illustrating hand and finger stroke details!
Right. I'll make a start. Never paid much attention to it, but comparing my right-hand finger positions with Andy's, I note that my fingers are sort of swooping onto the strings and gripping them, while Andy's position appears to be considerably flatter and his fingers look as if strumming/stroking the strings rather than gripping them.

Ever tried taking photos with your left hand? Very awkward ... I hope they nevertheless illustrate what I wrote.
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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Evelyn » Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:28 pm

This is the second photo, which shows the areas on my right-hand fingers which meet the relevant strings.
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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by NutmegCT » Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:35 pm

Thank you Evelyn! It's the right side of the finger tip that sounds the strings when you play.

I also notice the angle of your middle finger quite different from Andy's. It appears your middle finger is bent at the first knuckle off the hand, while Andy's looks almost straight.

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Re: Practice Video - Basket of Turf

Post by Evelyn » Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:28 pm

This video shows quite well, I think, how the fingers grip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlh1JiZyA00

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